Haze got reviewed...and its not looking good..

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This was meant to be the Halo killer for the PS3. And did it deliver? Well according to IGN it's a big FAT NO.

IGN scored Haze 4.5,

Take a look yourself - ps3.ign.com/

Dante_10 said: Krakenfood said: There isnt a whole lot of difference between 1080p and 1080i (which is on all 720p HDTV's) Depends how far/close you sit to the screen, people blow the whole "Liek OMGZ teh 1080p is 1000 times bettAR than 1080i lolzzzor" way out of proportion...play Virtua Fighter in 1080p and compare it to 1080i resolution and there is little to no difference.

Yeah there is no real difference between 1080i and 1080p in terms of visuals. From what I know, 1080i panels refresh the screen by halves wheras 1080p panels refresh the whole screen, correct? If that's the case, 1080i would be the best way to go since it's offering a constant and smoother refresh rate.

Thats right, in fact some people prefer 1080i over 1080p, im one of those people
from 720p upwards I can't notice the difference. And don't tell me I'm sitting far away from my 42" Bravia.
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Krakenfood said:Thats right, in fact some people prefer 1080i over 1080p, im one of those people



My TV only supports up to 1080i so I'm not complaining in the slightest . Better for me, haha.
I reckon Haze is the way it is because they kept delaying the game and so they rushed it to bring it out as soon as possible and now its hopeless. Does anyone think it may get better with updates?

iaculch said: from 720p upwards I can't notice the difference. And don't tell me I'm sitting far away from my 42" Bravia.

I dont use 720p alot so i cant say, but there is pretty much zero difference between 1080p and 1080i, give "them" time..HD whores and people who are "in the business" will storm into this thread telling us otherwise on how "apparently" superior 1080p is to 1080i...
I play Warhawk and FIFA 08 and GTA4 in 720p and I play GT5:p in 1080p. I would not be able to tell the difference.

I have a 42" Bravia and I'm sitting approx 2m away from it.

Kiwijoe said: well i got a chance to play the retail promo version of the game (full game) today , one of the guys at work got a lend of it off a manager he knows at eb an i went round an played it for an hour tonight




How long did it take to install?
1080p is way more superior to 1080i:

- 1080p refreshes the image on the screen all the time, where was 1080i refreshes only half at a time. Hence the p for progressive and i for interlaced.

- refresh rates = more images are moved. Therefore a higher refresh rate will lead to smoother images.

I am very disappointed with Haze, it was like playing a PS2 game. I know that some of you guys are gonna call me an HD maniac, but what's the point of the next gen systems? (except wii). Why do we bother with all these HD crap?

It's because the next gen systems are supposed to be HD. If you're saying that HD doesn't matter then go back to the PS2 and the Xbox. Haze should've been a PS2 title, that would've made more sense.

Overall the game was overhyped and after all the delays we got a game that Microsoft made for the PS3.
I don't know about you guys, but I would prefer a game to have awesome graphics and be in 576p then have OK graphics and be in 1080p

Kiwijoe said: well i got a chance to play the retail promo version of the game (full game) today , one of the guys at work got a lend of it off a manager he knows at eb an i went round an played it for an hour tonight

that hour was enough for me to scrap any thoughts i have of even renting this turd of a game

very very very bad glitches i mean real bad an that was in the first few levels , clipping , framerate , weird graphical glitches a reload bug where our gun would not reload at all even though we had 400+ ammo left

enemys are spose to drop from helicopters like in the demo half the time there is no helicopter just a rope attached to nothing in the sky WTF ... or come out of doors\buildings they just magicaly spawn when you get near there spawn zones out of thin air rightin front of you

worst of all an enemy can be standing in plain sight of you 40 metres away stairing straight at you with you firing at him an he just stands there still doesnt move go for cover till you magicaly walk inside some invisible "detection zone" that all enemys seem to have then they just rush at you

thats advanced ai WTF

UTTERLY DISAPOINTED

i stand corrected to some of my other comments this game is utter CRAP an should not be played by anyone , i can see microsoft executives rolling on the floor after this disaster

ps3 gamers deserve better then this



thx 4 review
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576p is in the Wii territory....

It comes down to what you define as "graphics"? Does it come down to anti-aliasing? Or gradation?

Remember that the more resolution they have, the more texture they can fit in.

Entice said: 1080p is way more superior to 1080i:

- 1080p refreshes the image on the screen all the time, where was 1080i refreshes only half at a time. Hence the p for progressive and i for interlaced.

- refresh rates = more images are moved. Therefore a higher refresh rate will lead to smoother images.



But wouldn't 1080i refresh quicker since it's taking turns refreshing each side of the panel? I mean, in theory it would be quicker to cover two areas at the same time rather than covering it as a whole constantly, right?

I am very disappointed with Haze, it was like playing a PS2 game. I know that some of you guys are gonna call me an HD maniac, but what's the point of the next gen systems? (except wii). Why do we bother with all these HD crap?

It's because the next gen systems are supposed to be HD. If you're saying that HD doesn't matter then go back to the PS2 and the Xbox. Haze should've been a PS2 title, that would've made more sense.



Exactly my point from before. If a console is fully capable of dishing out HD gaming, the software should compliment the console's hardware and deliver HD quality. No excuses.

Overall the game was overhyped and after all the delays we got a game that Microsoft made for the PS3.



Not sure what you're suggesting there. So far, Microsoft/Xbox 360 have
*continued*

Not sure what you're suggesting there. So far, Microsoft/Xbox 360 have dished out more titles worthy of the "High Definition" tag than the Sony/PS3 have.
*Awaits potentially heated HDTV debate* this is what foruming is all about

Krakenfood said: *Awaits potentially heated HDTV debate* this is what foruming is all about



Don't get me wrong. I'm not here to say what HD is better than the other. Because, frankly, I don't know jack about HD, 1080i/p or any of that jazz. I just know the very basics. if anything, I want to learn more about HD and clear any misconceptoions I might have about it.
Personally, if it looks great when I play it, I'm not complaining. And so far, all the consoles (albeit some Wii titles) are delivering beautiful visual enhancements.
1080i refreshes each second line, that is, lines 1, 3 and 5.....etc refreshes and then lines 2, 4 ,6 and so on refreshes.

With 1080p, all the lines refresh at once.

Hence, when you compare 1080i and 1080p, you will see that the bitrate for 1080p is always higher because the refresh rate is higher.

1080i and 1080p are both 1920x1080 pixels, it is only the matter of "who is smoother" and in this case it is 1080p.

Most companies will talk about 1080p and use it as their trojan horse...why? Wouldn't you want to say that "1080p is the best we can do you for right now!" instead of "1080i is the second best we can do right now!" which one would you buy?

And for that Microsoft comment, I was "sarcastically" referring to Microsoft paying Unisoft to make Haze look crap.

Krakenfood said:
iaculch said: from 720p upwards I can't notice the difference. And don't tell me I'm sitting far away from my 42" Bravia.I dont use 720p alot so i cant say, but there is pretty much zero difference between 1080p and 1080i, give "them" time..HD whores and people who are "in the business" will storm into this thread telling us otherwise on how "apparently" superior 1080p is to 1080i...



what series is your bravia ?
whats the native res on the panel ?


because in almost every ps3 game 720p > 1080i i everyway except for the few 1080 native games like gt5p which can depending on your de-interlacer chip look better in 1080i then 720p

32" an below yes you wont tell the differnce between 1080i an 1080p in most cases gaming depending on eye sight an veiwing distance, blue ray you will

but i no way is 1080i even in the same ballpark as 1080p on a 42" or larger screen the differnces are that far apart its not funny an then some on 1080p bluray movies
I don't own any 720p games, my TV is too big for it to look any good.
I have GT5P, GTA4, COD4.
Best games. =]

Anywho...
Haze... is ... the ... crappest game I've ever played.
I mean, what was the go with the hype? Overrated yo'.
You've bought teh game omfgBenneh?
Or are you judging it based on the demo?
Please back onto topic

akwai said: Please back onto topic



Mate, you're not helping getting the conversation back onto topic either with a post like that. Least you could do was say something random about Haze.

Anyway, who has taken the plunge and bought Haze? I'm waiting for mine to arrive via slow shipping

Kiwijoe said: Krakenfood said:

iaculch said: from 720p upwards I can't notice the difference. And don't tell me I'm sitting far away from my 42" Bravia.I dont use 720p alot so i cant say, but there is pretty much zero difference between 1080p and 1080i, give "them" time..HD whores and people who are "in the business" will storm into this thread telling us otherwise on how "apparently" superior 1080p is to 1080i...

what series is your bravia ?

whats the native res on the panel ?

because in almost every ps3 game 720p > 1080i i everyway except for the few 1080 native games like gt5p which can depending on your de-interlacer chip look better in 1080i then 720p

32" an below yes you wont tell the differnce between 1080i an 1080p in most cases gaming depending on eye sight an veiwing distance, blue ray you will

but i no way is 1080i even in the same ballpark as 1080p on a 42" or larger screen the differnces are that far apart its not funny an then some on 1080p bluray movies



X series 42" Bravia. I've played different games at different resolutions. If a game is 720p I'm happy. Ive never played a 576p game on my Bravia so I wouldn't know. Personally, I think that if a game is Full HD GREAT but even it is only 720p or 576p for that matter but the textures and in game picture is great, I'm also happy.

omfgBenneh said: I don't own any 720p games, my TV is too big for it to look any good.
I have GT5P, GTA4, COD4.
Best games. =]
Anywho...
Haze... is ... the ... crappest game I've ever played.
I mean, what was the go with the hype? Overrated yo'.



i thought those game were actually 720p, but with all larger screens they upscale it... well i have a 58" and all my 720p games are upscaled.
GT5p is the only one of them that isn't upscaled but true 1080p

wutang01 said:
akwai said: Please back onto topic
Mate, you're not helping getting the conversation back onto topic either with a post like that. Least you could do was say something random about Haze.
Anyway, who has taken the plunge and bought Haze? I'm waiting for mine to arrive via slow shipping



Fair enough, I thought I would just steer the convo back into the right direction
 
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